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When I met with Michael White at the Max, it was in the vistor room where there are security cameras, children's toys and books, games, coffee, tea and hot chocolate ... and about a dozen, circular tables with glass tops.
On top of the tables are round metallic discs, about an inch high.
That's where the microphones are hidden.
White was to be ambushed in prison again this time by a crew from a CTV crime show based in Toronto.
According to the prison, a parole officer (who had a friend working at a television station in Edmonton) got White out of his cell and brought him to a room where the TV crew was waiting.
White said he hadn't agreed to any interview, hadn't been told about it, and he declined.
He referred to the journalists as "a bunch of plagiarists."
White's lawyer complained to prison authorities about the media ambush. Marilyn Burns said she was told the meeting should have never happened and was assured it would never happen again.
Michael White launched an appeal of his murder conviction. His papers were filed in the Law Courts Building the day before the month-long appeal period expired.
His appeal was heard in the fall of 2008.
White's lawyer, Hersch Wolch of Calgary, claimed the trial judge hadn't properly instructed the jury.
White waited nearly half a year before getting word that all three judges voted against him. Combined with votes from his jury trial, that made for a combined count of 15 to nothing.
"The justice system failed me before, and I'm not surprised it failed me again," was White's reaction.
He went on to say he did not have a lot of use for the justice system.
About a week after the Alberta Court of Appeal shot him down, Michael White got more bad news.
Wolch told White he'd be wasting his money if he tried going to the Supreme Court. Wolch felt there was nothing to appeal.
I met with Michael White Saturday evening, April 4th, 2009 at the Max. He had now been there for two years.
White had praise for the Edmonton police forensics officer who testified at his trial that he wanted to take soil samples where Liana's body was found but was ordered not to.
White described the policeman as an honest, decent man who wanted to do this job.
Also while in prison, White confirmed he had written a letter of thanks to his trial lawyer, Laura Stevens. White didn't want to tell me what was in the letter, saying it was "private."
I asked White what his plans were now that his appeal had been turned down.
The inmate rep for D-Unit collected his thoughts and then said, "Keep fighting."
White says he's already put in for a transfer to another prison, hopefully somewhere in Ontario so he can be closer to his family.
Michael White also talked about something he says has bothered him ever since the jury walked back into the courtroom and told him he was guilty.
He said one of female jurors was crying.
"Was she crying?" he asked. "Because Liana died?
"Was she crying because she didn't agree with the (guilty) decision, and she gave in to pressure from the group?"
I asked White if he would ever admit to killing Liana. I put it to him this way: "If you do not show remorse, it might be a long time before you get out.
"That's why David Milgaard spent 20 years and change."
White always said he would not plead guilty because he didn't kill his wife. Nothing had changed from our first meeting at the Remand Centre three and-a-half years ago.
"I'll just do my best to be a good prisoner and when my parole hearing comes up I'll make the case that I'm no threat and maybe I'll get released that way," he said.
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